1 00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:14,850 well here we are Canterbury roads in 2 00:00:21,179 --> 00:00:18,790 bryn mill Swansea and we're meeting a 3 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:21,189 witness who saw one of the triangles and 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:23,170 what we turn the light of the triangles 5 00:00:29,010 --> 00:00:25,930 on 19 for January 1983 a long time ago 6 00:00:33,090 --> 00:00:29,020 now October 2019 noses a long time ago 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:33,100 it was indeed yeah of course rubbish a 8 00:00:39,689 --> 00:00:37,210 he was young lad at the time over 83 a 9 00:00:43,350 --> 00:00:39,699 living 12:12 on you work with you mate 10 00:00:45,510 --> 00:00:43,360 Conrad ed was here so yes so basically 11 00:00:48,299 --> 00:00:45,520 what happened we were walking up the 12 00:00:50,340 --> 00:00:48,309 road because it was us a long time ago I 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:50,350 can't remember whether we were either 14 00:00:54,030 --> 00:00:52,570 delivering the herald of whales or we 15 00:00:58,049 --> 00:00:54,040 were coming back from rugby training but 16 00:01:00,750 --> 00:00:58,059 it was early evening issue and we were 17 00:01:04,910 --> 00:01:00,760 walking up this way possibly coming down 18 00:01:07,950 --> 00:01:04,920 but we were alibi here when we noticed 19 00:01:10,910 --> 00:01:07,960 something that was triangular up in the 20 00:01:12,779 --> 00:01:10,920 sky and I think what was really quite 21 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:12,789 freaky about it I think is the fact that 22 00:01:16,650 --> 00:01:14,350 was not making any noise 23 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:16,660 and it was going quite slow so what we 24 00:01:22,590 --> 00:01:20,950 had was that he was coming across this 25 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:22,600 Witherspoon's well one of the two ways 26 00:01:26,190 --> 00:01:24,190 it was either coming down and going 27 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:26,200 across what we can remember I think it 28 00:01:30,809 --> 00:01:28,390 was coming up and it was kind of coming 29 00:01:32,430 --> 00:01:30,819 up if it was right there and I can 30 00:01:35,639 --> 00:01:32,440 remember it being triangular shape I'm 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:35,649 back in 83 that was fun wasn't it that 32 00:01:40,889 --> 00:01:39,130 was my defense I remember think it was 33 00:01:44,969 --> 00:01:40,899 like an Imperial cruiser but for 34 00:01:50,219 --> 00:01:44,979 triangular I can remember there was 35 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:50,229 lights on it and we looked at it but a 36 00:01:55,169 --> 00:01:52,539 minute may be good so so we're along 37 00:01:56,790 --> 00:01:55,179 it's a minute possibly a joke I happen 38 00:01:58,589 --> 00:01:56,800 it was quite well he because it was dark 39 00:02:00,570 --> 00:01:58,599 it was kind of a silhouette that was 40 00:02:02,430 --> 00:02:00,580 behind because you see the shape of it 41 00:02:03,779 --> 00:02:02,440 yeah it wasn't just three lights no I 42 00:02:05,309 --> 00:02:03,789 could actually see cuz it was quite it 43 00:02:07,820 --> 00:02:05,319 was dark but you could see you could 44 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:07,830 make out that the shape was triangular I 45 00:02:13,650 --> 00:02:09,550 can't remember whether they were 46 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:18,270 being any color [\h__\h] record but I can 47 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:19,900 remember seeing it coming up and then 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:21,040 kind of looking as I was heading over 49 00:02:28,290 --> 00:02:24,970 the bay and having that kind of way or 50 00:02:30,570 --> 00:02:28,300 ourselves that yes what about speed of 51 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:30,580 travel slow nothing that was the other 52 00:02:33,210 --> 00:02:32,050 thing that can have caught my mind I 53 00:02:36,570 --> 00:02:33,220 think was the fact that it was going 54 00:02:38,010 --> 00:02:36,580 slow and it was quite so we were looking 55 00:02:40,050 --> 00:02:38,020 at many strange it's not making any 56 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:40,060 noise was the snowy like was it dark it 57 00:02:45,330 --> 00:02:43,090 was it was dark it was it was cloud you 58 00:02:47,490 --> 00:02:45,340 know but I remember it been so dark but 59 00:02:50,340 --> 00:02:47,500 it was dark enough that obviously it was 60 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:50,350 concealing that quite heavily was this 61 00:02:53,610 --> 00:02:52,930 early evening new estimated well if I 62 00:02:56,730 --> 00:02:53,620 recall 63 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:56,740 sick of such a long time ago we'd seen 64 00:03:00,180 --> 00:02:58,480 it at a slightly different time to what 65 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:00,190 was reported in the paper the following 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:02,380 date because I'm just kind of spot what 67 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:04,450 I was gonna lead to because what had 68 00:03:10,890 --> 00:03:06,610 happened I went home at the time I used 69 00:03:12,330 --> 00:03:10,900 to live in the house down but I and I 70 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:12,340 think I told my mom or my dad I said 71 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:14,080 I've never seen a UFO or seeing 72 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:15,610 something that didn't make it a bed so 73 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:19,120 of any sense and kind of forgot about it 74 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:21,040 and that was kind of that didn't know 75 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:24,370 what it was and the following day my 76 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:26,530 parents had the Evening Post and shrill 77 00:03:30,030 --> 00:03:28,209 away and I saw in the front that there 78 00:03:34,230 --> 00:03:30,040 was a triangle oh that's what I saw last 79 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:34,240 night so I think it was more because I 80 00:03:38,190 --> 00:03:35,530 was intrigued in to find out what 81 00:03:40,199 --> 00:03:38,200 actually it was but I remember why I 82 00:03:42,150 --> 00:03:40,209 remember being unusual and I'm pretty 83 00:03:43,470 --> 00:03:42,160 sure it's beforehand because this is a 84 00:03:45,390 --> 00:03:43,480 bit nuts if I remember this 85 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:45,400 there was somebody possibly called 86 00:03:49,890 --> 00:03:47,760 Trotman I think who made an interview 87 00:03:51,180 --> 00:03:49,900 and the only reason I remember that is 88 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:51,190 because I had a friend in school called 89 00:03:53,729 --> 00:03:52,270 Paul drop one and I was wondering 90 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:53,739 whether it was his dad so I don't know 91 00:03:59,760 --> 00:03:56,850 whether that was a bishop all right 92 00:04:02,610 --> 00:03:59,770 Steve has recently spoken oh really I 93 00:04:02,910 --> 00:04:02,620 just remember that asked me to track him 94 00:04:05,370 --> 00:04:02,920 down 95 00:04:06,660 --> 00:04:05,380 I only remembered that today because I 96 00:04:08,850 --> 00:04:06,670 could remember go back in skipping 97 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:08,860 through Italy might make most winters it 98 00:04:12,990 --> 00:04:10,510 was the same like yeah yeah yeah 99 00:04:14,580 --> 00:04:13,000 and yes I said just reading through the 100 00:04:15,660 --> 00:04:14,590 article and everything on hospice trains 101 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:15,670 because tweeting it at a slightly 102 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:20,250 reasonably that was probably good 103 00:04:24,029 --> 00:04:22,210 they were seen of a different time over 104 00:04:26,010 --> 00:04:24,039 a period of a couple hours yes that's 105 00:04:26,580 --> 00:04:26,020 right I think is I'm when we'd seen it I 106 00:04:28,580 --> 00:04:26,590 think I was quite 107 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:28,590 different times that have been co-opted 108 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:31,210 yes and I think you know he was a 109 00:04:34,770 --> 00:04:32,830 different because I if I remember I can 110 00:04:37,379 --> 00:04:34,780 seem to remember that we've seen it 111 00:04:42,020 --> 00:04:37,389 slightly earlier than what the time I 112 00:04:45,740 --> 00:04:42,030 think was thinking in the post but um 113 00:04:48,420 --> 00:04:45,750 between five and six or after six it was 114 00:04:50,670 --> 00:04:48,430 after after six ten minutes on the rug 115 00:04:51,689 --> 00:04:50,680 between whom ' i i'm pretty hip it was 116 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:51,699 it was one of the three industry after 117 00:04:54,990 --> 00:04:53,919 school is it yeah but then we always 118 00:04:56,939 --> 00:04:55,000 take my time properly good on the 119 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:56,949 partner stuff as well afterwards she was 120 00:05:00,390 --> 00:04:58,479 an early it wasn't like four or five no 121 00:05:02,490 --> 00:05:00,400 God no no no no it was it was certainly 122 00:05:04,140 --> 00:05:02,500 say for the top of my head and say I 123 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:04,150 could be completely wrong and I want 124 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:05,380 there to keep it quite fresh so I wasn't 125 00:05:09,990 --> 00:05:08,710 really getting to the facts in memory 126 00:05:12,030 --> 00:05:10,000 recalls and I could be completely wrong 127 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:12,040 I'm pretty sure in the paper I think it 128 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:13,360 was like they said they see that say 129 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:14,830 sevenish or something we've tracked down 130 00:05:18,210 --> 00:05:16,330 quite a lot by the witnesses weren't in 131 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:18,220 the paper one of which was a guy called 132 00:05:23,159 --> 00:05:20,200 coin Jones it was a driving instructor 133 00:05:24,570 --> 00:05:23,169 right leave it in leaving exams in long 134 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:24,580 walks Avenue which is not that far away 135 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:39,490 from what they saw it was heading in the 136 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:47,200 direction that's in that's kind of if 137 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:48,490 you were seeing the same kind as would 138 00:05:53,159 --> 00:05:50,110 be headed this trips mark Murray worth 139 00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:53,169 is everywhere saw his from downhill sure 140 00:06:02,969 --> 00:05:56,910 and he said that was that oneself right 141 00:06:04,589 --> 00:06:02,979 well I seem to recall I seem to recall 142 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:04,599 that I think said it was either coming 143 00:06:08,190 --> 00:06:06,310 down and going across bicycle to think 144 00:06:10,110 --> 00:06:08,200 what was coming up and then kind of 145 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:10,120 almost doing that and as lucky as it was 146 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:12,370 gonna go ahead in towards the back is if 147 00:06:15,629 --> 00:06:13,690 it turned and can they went towards the 148 00:06:17,159 --> 00:06:15,639 base it was just the one just the one 149 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:17,169 that I can they add that I saw that he 150 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:19,090 sold no nothing and I said that was what 151 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:20,560 was really weird because I mean you'd 152 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:22,330 often see like aircraft and stuff in the 153 00:06:25,650 --> 00:06:23,770 nights and you see the little lights and 154 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:25,660 stuff tailing across or you see how he 155 00:06:28,980 --> 00:06:27,130 caught there's a stuff all you cure 156 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:28,990 helicopters rather were the lights but I 157 00:06:32,339 --> 00:06:30,400 can we were just fascinated by it 158 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:32,349 because this is we were just making no 159 00:06:59,410 --> 00:06:57,340 liking it too but nowhere and consider 160 00:07:01,570 --> 00:06:59,420 the length twice possibly a chunk of it 161 00:07:03,190 --> 00:07:01,580 could be bigger but then obviously in a 162 00:07:07,420 --> 00:07:03,200 in a triangular kind of shape is it 163 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:07,430 Nicola on phone yes - because man that's 164 00:07:10,630 --> 00:07:08,810 how you remember it all looking more 165 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:10,640 like a regular triangle does it move in 166 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:12,860 with a pocket front door slightly quite 167 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:14,930 different from what I can recall it was 168 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:16,310 coming up and it's in the village gonna 169 00:07:20,110 --> 00:07:17,450 go back we're thinking ahead over 170 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:20,120 towards the bait up over there yeah boys 171 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:21,650 it was down by pretty sure more thinking 172 00:07:25,570 --> 00:07:22,880 about it's probably a penis I've never 173 00:07:26,830 --> 00:07:25,580 stood quite funny to twelve-year-old 174 00:07:28,510 --> 00:07:26,840 boys in the suite was loose can you 175 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:28,520 remember what you said - yeah I remember 176 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:29,840 looking at Conrad and I think it was a 177 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:31,670 just you know what the hell was that you 178 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:34,400 know and we I think we were just 179 00:07:38,830 --> 00:07:35,720 discussing the fact it didn't make any 180 00:07:40,510 --> 00:07:38,840 noise I think then we went through the 181 00:07:43,930 --> 00:07:40,520 UFO is it something what's the arm 182 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:43,940 you're sort of feeling freaked out quite 183 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:47,510 a bit because in like he's been very 184 00:07:51,790 --> 00:07:49,520 possibly I remember being really shocked 185 00:07:58,060 --> 00:07:51,800 by it um it was really out on the street 186 00:07:59,890 --> 00:07:58,070 no well I think because we see the paper 187 00:08:01,690 --> 00:07:59,900 the follow it now what they what they 188 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:01,700 was it on do you no no no he was a 189 00:08:04,270 --> 00:08:03,050 Wednesday Wednesday anybody's out the 190 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:04,280 consumed it was a Friday or probably 191 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:05,690 wasn't I spoken about it in school but 192 00:08:10,180 --> 00:08:08,450 if it was a Wednesday my perils would 193 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:10,190 have had the paper on the first day was 194 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:12,080 just well it was in the paper it was 195 00:08:15,220 --> 00:08:13,610 actually good like following that when 196 00:08:16,810 --> 00:08:15,230 they other draw in that's right yeah and 197 00:08:18,130 --> 00:08:16,820 I say it was I was that the Friday that 198 00:08:19,150 --> 00:08:18,140 was in the paper was it that was it he 199 00:08:23,650 --> 00:08:19,160 was in the following night that says 200 00:08:24,820 --> 00:08:23,660 right okay yeah at the 20th where yeah 201 00:08:26,470 --> 00:08:24,830 coach Scott said they would probably 202 00:08:29,620 --> 00:08:26,480 meet yours then the following night 203 00:08:33,130 --> 00:08:29,630 meteors never say all right witnesses 204 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:33,140 members he remember I said under it was 205 00:08:38,020 --> 00:08:36,010 a it was a drawing with two triangles 206 00:08:40,690 --> 00:08:38,030 well I I could remember 207 00:08:42,700 --> 00:08:40,700 yeah because I can remember the image 208 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:42,710 which is in my head I can remember 209 00:08:46,750 --> 00:08:44,570 seeing that image in the paper on the 210 00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:46,760 page where I think that UFOs was and 211 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:48,800 whatever there and they had the triangle 212 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:51,910 with the four or the three lights and I 213 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:55,730 think that's why it's the others Jim 214 00:09:00,730 --> 00:08:57,920 Thomas's was the lady was leaving she 215 00:09:03,370 --> 00:09:00,740 was that she was working in number 216 00:09:05,050 --> 00:09:03,380 victims contacts politics all right okay 217 00:09:06,190 --> 00:09:05,060 down in the South dock 218 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:06,200 she wasn't even work and she actually 219 00:09:10,540 --> 00:09:09,200 saw three she reported the ponds that 220 00:09:12,130 --> 00:09:10,550 she saw two but she's told us it was 221 00:09:13,930 --> 00:09:12,140 three is three she just saw one 222 00:09:15,610 --> 00:09:13,940 disappearing behind the building is a 223 00:09:18,130 --> 00:09:15,620 building her in the way and then she saw 224 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:18,140 because well yeah it cuz for me as I 225 00:09:23,170 --> 00:09:19,370 said it was very difficult to get it 226 00:09:25,090 --> 00:09:23,180 gave me tip at the size big I mean if 227 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:25,100 I'm trying to describe to you sighs ways 228 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:29,930 and if I can look for a comparison if I 229 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:32,650 was trying to sort of say from that wire 230 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:35,810 say what halfway down down to possibly 231 00:09:40,570 --> 00:09:38,930 the next wire in the sky that will give 232 00:09:42,850 --> 00:09:40,580 you any kind of relations possibly size 233 00:09:46,990 --> 00:09:42,860 from there today today I would probably 234 00:09:48,670 --> 00:09:47,000 understand about no no maybe maybe not 235 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:48,680 as far down as that but it was certainly 236 00:09:52,570 --> 00:09:50,330 from there say to there in terms of the 237 00:09:54,010 --> 00:09:52,580 the length of it going back matter but 238 00:09:55,900 --> 00:09:54,020 because it was coming up that's what I 239 00:09:57,220 --> 00:09:55,910 seem to recall clearly feeling it was 240 00:10:00,210 --> 00:09:57,230 really really big yes 241 00:10:02,620 --> 00:10:00,220 and the feeling is well it was quite low 242 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:02,630 but as I said he came up maybe it's 243 00:10:05,260 --> 00:10:03,770 because of the size it was he would 244 00:10:07,450 --> 00:10:05,270 think if it was really really high you 245 00:10:09,340 --> 00:10:07,460 would be exactly these miles across 246 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:09,350 because it was dark and as I've been you 247 00:10:13,270 --> 00:10:11,120 know as I said in the past you'd often 248 00:10:14,890 --> 00:10:13,280 see aircraft where they would have 249 00:10:17,170 --> 00:10:14,900 delayed sound if they were further away 250 00:10:18,730 --> 00:10:17,180 or maybe whatever but there was just no 251 00:10:20,670 --> 00:10:18,740 sound and I think that was the part it 252 00:10:22,420 --> 00:10:20,680 was definitely 253 00:10:23,770 --> 00:10:22,430 mechanical I see because I'll say that 254 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:23,780 the lights they say I can't remember 255 00:10:26,740 --> 00:10:25,010 whether they were flat I can't remember 256 00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:26,750 any features underneath it I can see I 257 00:10:30,250 --> 00:10:28,040 could just see the silhouette because it 258 00:10:33,250 --> 00:10:30,260 literally to see the silhouette as I 259 00:10:35,230 --> 00:10:33,260 said it came across and went that way 260 00:10:36,490 --> 00:10:35,240 I said it would just be just no sound 261 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:36,500 there was no sound it's a couple of 262 00:10:40,330 --> 00:10:37,970 street lights you know presumably there 263 00:10:42,490 --> 00:10:40,340 was a lamppost and all the type yeah 264 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:42,500 very possible yeah then probably what 265 00:10:46,650 --> 00:10:43,850 they were LEDs it would have been your 266 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:46,660 build the orangey down on Gia 267 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:53,450 yes so they'll give so yes I didn't 268 00:10:57,530 --> 00:10:56,330 oranjee what street lights and it didn't 269 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:57,540 effect you've ever been 270 00:11:00,710 --> 00:10:59,370 I said because if you see it was a 271 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:00,720 silhouette as I said it was quite 272 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:02,970 because it was dark you could see the 273 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:04,650 silhouette there but it wasn't as if it 274 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:06,690 was there was a big contrast if that 275 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:08,910 makes kind of sense the light certainly 276 00:11:14,210 --> 00:11:12,990 defined where the shape was but the 277 00:11:15,950 --> 00:11:14,220 other thing as I said which was quite 278 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:15,960 striking it was the speed it wasn't 279 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:17,520 going very fast it didn't seem to be 280 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:18,510 going fast at all 281 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:20,610 and I couldn't understand how something 282 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:25,170 of that size could go that slow and make 283 00:11:30,350 --> 00:11:27,210 the locks if that makes kind of sense to 284 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:30,360 people and I think as I said it's 285 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:35,130 strange I think it's quite I can't 286 00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:36,810 remember talking about his school we 287 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:37,920 must have office you mention your just 288 00:11:40,550 --> 00:11:39,330 ask you what school to do a little bit 289 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:40,560 of golf all the time I didn't bring my 290 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:43,200 school back so if I was 12 I guess I 291 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:50,060 years old people used to go up to Squire 292 00:11:53,090 --> 00:11:51,600 yeah Abbey Bush of course re there 293 00:11:56,570 --> 00:11:53,100 napkin cases you can remember people 294 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:56,580 talking and I honestly can't I think I 295 00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:58,530 can remember obviously be ready got into 296 00:12:02,990 --> 00:11:59,760 school of God there was a thing in the 297 00:12:04,070 --> 00:12:03,000 paper mother mother mother and maybe if 298 00:12:12,140 --> 00:12:04,080 no one else has seen it 299 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:12,150 all right yes she's in other words oh is 300 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:12,450 it 301 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:17,040 were exactly sponge would wrote oh yeah 302 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:19,050 uplands because that would have been 303 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:20,970 quite big as well they she's described 304 00:12:24,980 --> 00:12:23,610 it so yeah but really it was kind of mad 305 00:12:27,050 --> 00:12:24,990 I think because and that's why I was 306 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:27,060 quite excited when I'd seen the article 307 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:28,530 was in long wheels and winos and the 308 00:12:32,180 --> 00:12:30,480 people in the Evening Post when it was 309 00:12:34,130 --> 00:12:32,190 mentioned what it was like if we did an 310 00:12:36,110 --> 00:12:34,140 interview a couple years back and that's 311 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:36,120 on YouTube you know I've missed that no 312 00:12:40,630 --> 00:12:37,200 this year a couple were the ones that 313 00:12:46,580 --> 00:12:40,640 were they but it was five I don't get it 314 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:46,590 but yes but I think it was just one of 315 00:12:49,340 --> 00:12:48,210 those things which I kind of forgot 316 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:49,350 about it for years I think what would 317 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:51,810 happen if you'd be sitting around one 318 00:12:54,380 --> 00:12:52,980 night having a beer and somebody would 319 00:12:56,210 --> 00:12:54,390 match the stories I kill you oh there 320 00:12:57,710 --> 00:12:56,220 was that time you know when you mention 321 00:12:59,930 --> 00:12:57,720 it but other than that you just probably 322 00:13:01,430 --> 00:12:59,940 wouldn't you know mention it in any kind 323 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:01,440 of conversations yeah I was excited 324 00:13:05,210 --> 00:13:02,970 because obviously when it was mentioned 325 00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:05,220 it was even a paper online whichever one 326 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:07,740 it was I'm like oh that was right no 327 00:13:12,790 --> 00:13:10,370 that's what I'd seen so 328 00:13:14,170 --> 00:13:12,800 but to this day I can remember from the 329 00:13:15,850 --> 00:13:14,180 paper because I've never gone back if I 330 00:13:17,949 --> 00:13:15,860 worked in the Evening Post for 22 years 331 00:13:20,439 --> 00:13:17,959 I got no excuse I never went back and 332 00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:20,449 reread that article I possibly if you 333 00:13:24,309 --> 00:13:21,769 guys had read published which I can't 334 00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:24,319 remember either it might have had more 335 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:26,240 the information in there but I can 336 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:27,410 remember think it was a Coast Guard said 337 00:13:31,569 --> 00:13:28,490 that there was nothing up in the sky 338 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:31,579 that evening or there was nothing of 339 00:13:35,980 --> 00:13:34,370 obvious thing I mean years later I was 340 00:13:37,420 --> 00:13:35,990 wondering Coast Guard cells probably 341 00:13:38,530 --> 00:13:37,430 meteors for yeah but there clearly 342 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:38,540 wasn't I mean it was definitely 343 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:41,529 mechanical you know it was it was not 344 00:13:49,749 --> 00:13:43,850 organic if that makes sense really 345 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:49,759 amazing like it's like math see before 346 00:13:54,069 --> 00:13:51,649 ii was in britain i think as you because 347 00:13:56,769 --> 00:13:54,079 i'd never known and they were forgotten 348 00:13:58,059 --> 00:13:56,779 yeah and i think you know i'm a big 349 00:13:59,920 --> 00:13:58,069 sci-fi finer stuff as well so you think 350 00:14:02,259 --> 00:13:59,930 I probably would have a bit more thing 351 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:02,269 with it but you know I I just think it 352 00:14:04,749 --> 00:14:03,170 was just one of those things which you 353 00:14:06,549 --> 00:14:04,759 could have took it but oh my god that's 354 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:06,559 my dad so what the following day in the 355 00:14:09,999 --> 00:14:08,720 paper may be mentioned it in school the 356 00:14:11,619 --> 00:14:10,009 day after and then just kind of forgot 357 00:14:12,999 --> 00:14:11,629 about it you know and of course we 358 00:14:20,769 --> 00:14:13,009 didn't have the International and we 359 00:14:23,619 --> 00:14:20,779 constantly go back I think a couple of 360 00:14:24,939 --> 00:14:23,629 times after that I could they would 361 00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:24,949 probably planes or goodness notes 362 00:14:28,059 --> 00:14:26,870 whenever you see a couple things that 363 00:14:31,809 --> 00:14:28,069 were kind of dying off in the sky you 364 00:14:39,949 --> 00:14:31,819 can assume quite sort of things in the 365 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:43,049 because I mean my okay I think I've 366 00:14:46,289 --> 00:14:44,649 mentioned it once twice as a was a token 367 00:14:48,359 --> 00:14:46,299 you know you talk with your friends in 368 00:14:49,739 --> 00:14:48,369 or was it nearly stealth right there or 369 00:14:52,109 --> 00:14:49,749 something or whatever they were doing 370 00:14:53,729 --> 00:14:52,119 but but even then I think the speed that 371 00:14:55,499 --> 00:14:53,739 it was going you'd always imagine one of 372 00:14:57,209 --> 00:14:55,509 those planes probably couldn't did it 373 00:14:58,859 --> 00:14:57,219 took over a minute the Corolla well it 374 00:15:00,599 --> 00:14:58,869 was it was a while you know I mean I in 375 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:00,609 my head it seemed like it was well if I 376 00:15:03,509 --> 00:15:01,929 remember it's been slow you know what I 377 00:15:04,979 --> 00:15:03,519 remember think up or down then one 378 00:15:07,829 --> 00:15:04,989 thinking back and thinking is coming up 379 00:15:10,679 --> 00:15:07,839 and it turned but it was all quite 380 00:15:11,939 --> 00:15:10,689 graceful it was not you know walk were 381 00:15:13,769 --> 00:15:11,949 did didn't see could be going that quick 382 00:15:15,479 --> 00:15:13,779 he didn't he'd be in a rush it was just 383 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:15,489 going to slowly start earning an income 384 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:17,049 he going and to say just heading over 385 00:15:23,699 --> 00:15:22,089 the bay that was kind of kind of it but